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signs that an affiliate of the terror group played a role in the benghazi attack that killed ambassador stevens last month. how much do we have to worry about? michael hayden has run the u.s. intelligence agency under three presidents. he was appointed director of national security by bill clinton, and was in that post on 9/11. george w. bush later named him cia director, a job he left 23 days after president obama came into office. hayden is now adviser to the romney campaign. welcome back to the show, general hayden. >> good morning, fareed. thank you. >> there are two possibilities, one, that this is a bunch of bad guys, militants, that got lucky. the other is this is a systematic campaign perhaps directed by one of the major al qaeda affiliates, if not al qaeda central. you know, this is, in fact, a -- you know, the execution of a long planned attack against the united states. which do you think seems more plausible? >> well, fareed, this is all fuzzy and it's just not fuzzy in our analyst. it's fuzzy in real life. if you look at al qaeda, i'll give you three tears. -- tiers. you've got al
signs that an affiliate of the terror group played a role in the benghazi attack that killed ambassador stevens last month. how much do we have to worry about? michael hayden has run the u.s. intelligence agency under three presidents. he was appointed director of national security by bill clinton, and was in that post on 9/11. george w. bush later named him cia director, a job he left 23 days after president obama came into office. hayden is now adviser to the romney campaign. welcome back to...
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one is the ongoing situation regarding the death of ambassador christopher stevens in libya. lots of vagueness about what really went on in the days leading up to this and indeed, afterwards. what is your assessment of where we are now? >> well, let me tell you what's not vague, and that is five days after, five days after what was very quickly determined by the intelligence committee as a terrorist attack, they trotted out our ambassador to the u.n. to every major news outlet saying that this was a spontaneous demonstration because of a hateful video. that's probably one of the worst things that i have ever observed in my life, and obviously, there were warnings and obviously anybody who believes that an attack with mortars and rocket-propelled grenades and a very sophisticated attack is the result of a video, i mean, it's just ridiculous. and finally, piers, it's not the video that's stoking these demonstrations. as you know, it's the radical islamists that are using the videos as a means of inflaming passion in the middle east and i'll be damned if i'm ready to abandon the
one is the ongoing situation regarding the death of ambassador christopher stevens in libya. lots of vagueness about what really went on in the days leading up to this and indeed, afterwards. what is your assessment of where we are now? >> well, let me tell you what's not vague, and that is five days after, five days after what was very quickly determined by the intelligence committee as a terrorist attack, they trotted out our ambassador to the u.n. to every major news outlet saying that...
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new evidence shows that ambassador stevens was concerned about the escalating violence in benghazi. why did the state department, new information, new emails turn up, that show that they turned down his request for security support? why? what is going to be done about it? it? straight ahead. [ male announcer ] if you had a dollar for every dollar car insurance companies say they'll save yoby switching, you'd have like, a ton of dollars. but how are they saving you those dollars? a lot of companies might answer "um" or, "no comment." then there's esurance. born online, raised by technology, and majors in efficiency. so whatever they save, you save. hassle, time, paperwork, hair-tearing-out, and yes, especially dollars. esurance. insurance for the modern world. click or call. aah! learning how to kick flip 6 stairs takes determination. so will getting into college. i've got what it takes. so do you. >> sean: the first round of post-debate polls are out and there are chomps in very important swing states, in virmg virk, recommendny leads 49-48. florida, governor romney is ahead of the
new evidence shows that ambassador stevens was concerned about the escalating violence in benghazi. why did the state department, new information, new emails turn up, that show that they turned down his request for security support? why? what is going to be done about it? it? straight ahead. [ male announcer ] if you had a dollar for every dollar car insurance companies say they'll save yoby switching, you'd have like, a ton of dollars. but how are they saving you those dollars? a lot of...
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two suspects from tunisia are being weed if turkey tonight in connection with the murders of chris stevens and three other americans. jill daugherty has been digging into the story and is with us tonight. >> well, on this particular incident, we don't know a whole lot of detail, but we know those two men, they are being questioned in turkey. and the understanding is that they were somehow allegedly tied to the attack in libya. which killed the ambassador. now, they were on the watch list that the u.s. compiled. that was given to the turks and the turks picked them up, apparently came into the country this week and the fbi is hoping they will have some type of access to them. >> questioned them already, but would like to have a chance to. >> right. >> there was also other development today in this investigation. this e-mail between the state department and the team benghazi surfaced. what do we know about that? >> well, this is part of, you know there are several investigations ongoing into the death of the ambassador and the three other americans. and how it happened. the charge is that th
two suspects from tunisia are being weed if turkey tonight in connection with the murders of chris stevens and three other americans. jill daugherty has been digging into the story and is with us tonight. >> well, on this particular incident, we don't know a whole lot of detail, but we know those two men, they are being questioned in turkey. and the understanding is that they were somehow allegedly tied to the attack in libya. which killed the ambassador. now, they were on the watch list...
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and it was -- and it was copied on the email was ambassador chris stevens. frankly, i don't see this as a huge red flag because a dc3 there i don't think in any way would have prevented these four murders. but your thoughts? >> i agree with that, as far as a dc3. but in light of all the other facts that are coming to light now, you had multiple attacks, even the british closed their consulate. you had the red cross, the international red cross was there. they had an rpg, you know, hit at their facility. so there were multiple, multiple attacks, i think more than 12 or 13, that definitely said they needed security. they requested security more than one time. so i don't know how leading up to 9/11, our administration -- our state department didn't take the appropriated steps to make sure that american citizens abroad were secure. that's the number-1 job of the federal government, to keep the citizens secure, whether here in the continental united states or overseas. >> ambassador rice has written a letter that says network part, this is a response to u.s. sena
and it was -- and it was copied on the email was ambassador chris stevens. frankly, i don't see this as a huge red flag because a dc3 there i don't think in any way would have prevented these four murders. but your thoughts? >> i agree with that, as far as a dc3. but in light of all the other facts that are coming to light now, you had multiple attacks, even the british closed their consulate. you had the red cross, the international red cross was there. they had an rpg, you know, hit at...
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. >>> we have the situation of the death of ambassador christopher stevens in libya. lots of vagueness about what really went on in the days leading up to this and indeed afterwards. what is your assessment of where we are now? >> what is not vague, and that is five days after what was very quickly determined by the intelligence committee as a terrorist attack, they trotted out our ambassador of the u.n. to every major news outlet saying that this was a spontaneous demonstration because of a hateful video. that's probably one of the worst things that i have ever observed in my life, and obviously there were warnings, and obviously anybody who believes in an attack with mortars and rocket hi rocket-propelled grenades, a very sophisticated attack, is the result of a video is just ridiculous. it's not the video that's stokingdemonstrations, it's the iraqis who are using these videos, and i'll be damned if i'm going to vacate the freedom of speech because of muhammad. >> are you in favor of her resigning? >> no, she was shooting the messenger. she was told to do that. i b
. >>> we have the situation of the death of ambassador christopher stevens in libya. lots of vagueness about what really went on in the days leading up to this and indeed afterwards. what is your assessment of where we are now? >> what is not vague, and that is five days after what was very quickly determined by the intelligence committee as a terrorist attack, they trotted out our ambassador of the u.n. to every major news outlet saying that this was a spontaneous demonstration...
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new evidence shows that ambassador stevens was concerned about the escalating violence in benghazi. why did the state department, new information, new emails turn up, that show that they turned down his request for security support? why? what is going to be done about it? straight ahead. [ male announcer ] what can you experience in a seat? inspiration. great power. iconic design. exhilarating performance. [ race announcer ] audi once again has created le mans history! [ male announcer ] and once in a great while... all of the above. take your seat in the incomparable audi a8. the highest-ranked vehicle appeal among large premium cars by j.d. power and associates. ♪ by new pink lemonadesociates. 5-hour energy? 5-hour energy supports the avon foundation for women breast cancer crusade. so i can get the energized feeling i need and support a great cause? i'm sold. pink lemonade 5-hour energy? yeah and a portion of every sale goes to the avon foundation for women breast cancer crusade. i'm sold. new pink lemonade 5-hour energy. get the alert, energized feeling you need and support br
new evidence shows that ambassador stevens was concerned about the escalating violence in benghazi. why did the state department, new information, new emails turn up, that show that they turned down his request for security support? why? what is going to be done about it? straight ahead. [ male announcer ] what can you experience in a seat? inspiration. great power. iconic design. exhilarating performance. [ race announcer ] audi once again has created le mans history! [ male announcer ] and...
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new evidence shows that ambassador stevens was concerned about the escalating violence in benghazi. why did the state department, new information, new emails turn up, that show that they turned down his request for security support? why? what is going to be done about it? straight ahead. foot?" "who thinks about stuff like that?" "vince mahe grew up on two continents... and noticed that wherever you go, people have their hands full, but their feet free." "the result? a liftgate you operate with your foot." "code name?" "open sesame" "the all new twenty thirteen ford escape. it's what happens when you go further." >> sean: the first round of post-debate polls are out and there are chomps in very important swing states, in virmg virk, recommendny leads 49-48. florida, governor romney is ahead of the anointed one, 49-47. in ohio, in fact, romney has closed the gap and obama is up only 1 point, 50-49. among the ohio voters who said they are certain they will vote, romney has a comfortable lead, 51-48. here with the reaction, fox news contributors, democratic pollster pat caddell and dou
new evidence shows that ambassador stevens was concerned about the escalating violence in benghazi. why did the state department, new information, new emails turn up, that show that they turned down his request for security support? why? what is going to be done about it? straight ahead. foot?" "who thinks about stuff like that?" "vince mahe grew up on two continents... and noticed that wherever you go, people have their hands full, but their feet free." "the...
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ambassador chris stevens and three other americans were murdered, a turkish broadcaster announced the arrest of two tunisians and called them suspect in the case. u.s. officials swiftly contacted them and they had no report on the action, they had an explanation why the fbi took so long to visit the so-called crime scene. >> we were working with the government of libya to obtain permission for the fbi team and the dod support team to travel there. we did seek over flight for them permission as well as for landing of aircraft and we worked to get them the appropriate visas, so we've been working through all of these perm metations. >> that the perpetrators may have different nationalities or fled to far-flung countries exposes the myriad difficulties the fbi faces in hunting down the killers. >> and the intelligence operation and the way in which globalization helps because we can check passports more quickly, we can figure out which may be fraudulent and which may be associated with suspect terrorists. >> the state department panel led by former u.s. ambassador thomas pickering held a
ambassador chris stevens and three other americans were murdered, a turkish broadcaster announced the arrest of two tunisians and called them suspect in the case. u.s. officials swiftly contacted them and they had no report on the action, they had an explanation why the fbi took so long to visit the so-called crime scene. >> we were working with the government of libya to obtain permission for the fbi team and the dod support team to travel there. we did seek over flight for them...
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ambassador to libya, chris stevens. the fbi says inadequate security prevented them from starting their investigation in benghazi before now. [ chanting ] >> angry, frustrated people feeling powerless to stop the civil war in syria. this is hama. this is where opposition groups say more shells landed today. >> after 19 months in fighting in syria they estimate that 19,000 people have been killed. opposition groups put that number much, much higher. more than a million people, half of them children, they're refugees. they're even too afraid to go home. there's also another victim in the civil war too. we're talking about the country's rich, important ancient history. this. >> some of the greatest landmarks in ruins. now after 19 months of fighting and civil war the global heritage fund says many historical treasures are being destroyed. the ancient villages of northern syria were named the unesco heritage site in 2011. the region is home to monasteries, ancient churches b. many of those ancient ruins were knocked over as
ambassador to libya, chris stevens. the fbi says inadequate security prevented them from starting their investigation in benghazi before now. [ chanting ] >> angry, frustrated people feeling powerless to stop the civil war in syria. this is hama. this is where opposition groups say more shells landed today. >> after 19 months in fighting in syria they estimate that 19,000 people have been killed. opposition groups put that number much, much higher. more than a million people, half...
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turkish media reports that two suspects have been detained in connection with the killing of ambassador stevens. nbc news has not independently confirmed that story. >>> later this morning, the september jobs report will be released. it will reportedly be better than august. let's go to jeff live in london. good morning. >> reporter: good morning to you. the problem is, the economy's just not adding jobs fast enough. we might see 118,000. that seems to be the consensus. but you know what? you need at least 125,000 to keep the equalibrium in the economy. this economy needs to find another 4.7 million jobs. that just isn't happening fast enough. that is a big deadweight around obama's neck when it comes to this election race here. probably just worth reflecting on why the federal reserve has said it is going to continue buying mortgage backed securities to the tune of $40 billion a month. it is all about that jobs number, and the fed's commitment to help the government try and get americans back to work here. worth also saying that even though they are optimistic about an improvement in this jobs
turkish media reports that two suspects have been detained in connection with the killing of ambassador stevens. nbc news has not independently confirmed that story. >>> later this morning, the september jobs report will be released. it will reportedly be better than august. let's go to jeff live in london. good morning. >> reporter: good morning to you. the problem is, the economy's just not adding jobs fast enough. we might see 118,000. that seems to be the consensus. but you...
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there are documents in the bedroom where ambassador stevens was staying. there are lots of documents and files in what appears to have been the security office for the mission. and among those files are records, sensitive records of administrative files, personnel files of libyans working with the americans, records of security protocols for what to do in case of emergency and even a very detailed itinerary of ambassador stevens' five-day trip along with cell phone numbers and names for a lot of the libyans he was trying to meet. >> i'm curious about one other thing, michael, that i know that you found. a document that indicated that americans at that mission in benghazi were discussing the possibility of an attack in early september. >> reporter: that's right. well, they were discussing the possibility of an attack as part of general security planning and precautions, but in a memo dated september 9th, two days before the attacks, they were working on a new security arrangement or a newly defined security arrangement with the militia that provided armed g
there are documents in the bedroom where ambassador stevens was staying. there are lots of documents and files in what appears to have been the security office for the mission. and among those files are records, sensitive records of administrative files, personnel files of libyans working with the americans, records of security protocols for what to do in case of emergency and even a very detailed itinerary of ambassador stevens' five-day trip along with cell phone numbers and names for a lot...
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ambassador to libya chris stevens. stay right there. we'll be back at the top of the hour for a full analysis of each man's performance and what happens from here. but now, let me take you back to that debate. >> i think we have another clear difference between the two of you. now let's move to health care, where i know there is a clear difference. and that has to do with the affordable care act, obama care. and it's a two-minute new segment. and that means two minutes each, and you go first, governor romney. you want it repealed. you want the affordable care act repealed. why? >> i sure do. well, in part, it comes again from my experience. i was in new hampshire. a woman came to me and she said, look, i can't afford insurance for myself or my son. i met a couple in appleton, wisconsin, and they said we're thinking of dropping our insurance. we can't afford it. and the number of small businesses that are dropping their insurance because they can't afford it. the cost of health care is just prohibitive and we've got to deal with cost. an
ambassador to libya chris stevens. stay right there. we'll be back at the top of the hour for a full analysis of each man's performance and what happens from here. but now, let me take you back to that debate. >> i think we have another clear difference between the two of you. now let's move to health care, where i know there is a clear difference. and that has to do with the affordable care act, obama care. and it's a two-minute new segment. and that means two minutes each, and you go...
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down their mission, their consulate or whatever, the mission was in benghazi, we understand that chris stevens wanted to be there, had a connection to benghazi, had been there during the war. but was he adequately secured and what about the nurfailures intelligence. >> they knew libya was not going to calm down overnight and have multiparty elections and a normal place overnight. they had to look at the tactical issues there and it seemed there were a lot of problems with militias running around not integrated into any police force let alone the national army. there were issues they needed to look at. on the other hand you're trying to manage that risk with the need to get out, talk to the libyan people, make sure they understand that we care, that we didn't just lose interest once gadhafi left the scene. i think it is -- it was very important to get out there, but, you know, i think the accountability review board is going to look at that very crucial question how well did they manage the risk? you cannot eliminate the risk. this is what diplomats do. we are out there, many of these circumsta
down their mission, their consulate or whatever, the mission was in benghazi, we understand that chris stevens wanted to be there, had a connection to benghazi, had been there during the war. but was he adequately secured and what about the nurfailures intelligence. >> they knew libya was not going to calm down overnight and have multiparty elections and a normal place overnight. they had to look at the tactical issues there and it seemed there were a lot of problems with militias running...
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stevens stopped running for about a week. then resumed. >> all indications are the ambassador was not reckless, and he took the advice always of his security forces, including sometimes when they said that meetings needed to be canceled, so i think that this is a failure of intelligence, a failure of security, and a failure of judgment, but not of the now diocesed ambassador. >> there were other security braechz, according to the committee and a sale that blew a hole in the security perimeter at the north gate of the benghazi mission. two rocket propelled grenade rounds were fired at the benghazi office of the red cross. and the convoy carrying the british ambassador was attacked by a militant with a grenade. the letter from the house oversight and government reform committee says multiple u.s. federal government officials told them that the u.s. mission in libya made repeated requests for increased security in benghazi, but was denied these resources by officials in washington. however, state department officials tell cnn th
stevens stopped running for about a week. then resumed. >> all indications are the ambassador was not reckless, and he took the advice always of his security forces, including sometimes when they said that meetings needed to be canceled, so i think that this is a failure of intelligence, a failure of security, and a failure of judgment, but not of the now diocesed ambassador. >> there were other security braechz, according to the committee and a sale that blew a hole in the security...
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the liberal media has ignored the facts surrounding the terrorist attack on ambassador christopher stevens. last night stewart went to town. >> so the administration's story was anti-muslim video on youtube touched off a massive protest on vend to spread quickly to 27 other places. seems implausible, but two days later, they had an explanation for that, two. >> our current assessment is that what happened in benghazi was, in fact, initially a spontaneous reaction to what had just transpired hours before in cairo. almost a copy cat of the demonstrations against our facility in cairo which were prompted, of course, by the video. >> copy cats. [ laughter ] libya wasn't the ring. it was the ring 2. [ laughter ] five days after the attack, the white house was still sticking to the video story. on the eighth day, the director of national counter terrorism center went in front of congress with a slightly different assessment. >> i would say yes, they were killed in the course of a terrorist attack on our embassy. >> of course, he's going to say it was a terrorist attack. he runs the counterterror
the liberal media has ignored the facts surrounding the terrorist attack on ambassador christopher stevens. last night stewart went to town. >> so the administration's story was anti-muslim video on youtube touched off a massive protest on vend to spread quickly to 27 other places. seems implausible, but two days later, they had an explanation for that, two. >> our current assessment is that what happened in benghazi was, in fact, initially a spontaneous reaction to what had just...
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she had actually met with ambassador stevens. what do you make of the pictures you see of what arwa's talking about? >> as i listen to arwa, it just reinforces what we said last week and we've said from the beginning. investigators have to go there, even if you didn't have all the physical evidence there that arwa just described to our viewers, you would want to know from the witness interviews, anderson, you would want to know measurements, you would want to be able to take people through it to really understand what the dynamic was. but then you see things like handprints and blood samples. one of the things, the first thing you would do, i'll give you an example, that is you would take the blood sample off the toilet and the bidet and see whether or not it matched first to the ambassador's. did he fall? there's all sorts of things you would want to know. you know, the pictures we've seen publicly of his body doesn't look like he did, but you don't know. and all those sorts of bits of information, it is true, it would be a less
she had actually met with ambassador stevens. what do you make of the pictures you see of what arwa's talking about? >> as i listen to arwa, it just reinforces what we said last week and we've said from the beginning. investigators have to go there, even if you didn't have all the physical evidence there that arwa just described to our viewers, you would want to know from the witness interviews, anderson, you would want to know measurements, you would want to be able to take people...
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the posting directed a threat against stevens. issa says stevens stopped his morning runs for about a week and then resumed them. in june, an ied was successfully placed at the u.s. consulate in benghazi, blowing a hole in the security perimeter gate, big enough for 40 people to go through. and in the weeks before the september 11th attacks, unarmed libyan guards working at the consulate were warned by family members to quit their jobs, because of, quote, rumors in the community of an impending attack. those are just a few of the 13 things that darrell issa listed. and he also included this major allegation. according to issa, multiple u.s. federal government officials have confirmed to the committee that prior to the september 11th attacks, the u.s. mission in libya made repeated requests for increased security in benghazi. the mission in libya, however, was denied these resources by officials in washington. the state department has responded to darrell issa's letter. here is spokeswoman victoria nuland. we are now working throug
the posting directed a threat against stevens. issa says stevens stopped his morning runs for about a week and then resumed them. in june, an ied was successfully placed at the u.s. consulate in benghazi, blowing a hole in the security perimeter gate, big enough for 40 people to go through. and in the weeks before the september 11th attacks, unarmed libyan guards working at the consulate were warned by family members to quit their jobs, because of, quote, rumors in the community of an impending...
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ambassador christopher stevens and three others. the whistle-blower in the case against jerry sandusky, suing the university for million, claiming that the university's handling of the case caused him distress and embarrassment. he maintains that he told the school he witnessed sandusky abusing a boy in 2001. sandoveningy was convicted on 45 counts of sexual abuse. i'm ainsley earhardt. now back to "on the record" with greta. has debate advice for governor mitt romney. we spoke with donald trump earlier. nice to talk to you. >> hi, greta. >> greta: all right. i read your twitter account all the time, apparently, you have lots of followers -- >> lots. >> greta: lots indeed. one of your recent tweets is, if president obama mentions governor mitt romney's tax returns in tomorrow's debate, then governor romney should ask for president obama's college records and applications. you really think he should do ha? >> absolutely. i don't know that he will. i hope he does. maybe one of the mod raters will do t. it's a question that she we shou
ambassador christopher stevens and three others. the whistle-blower in the case against jerry sandusky, suing the university for million, claiming that the university's handling of the case caused him distress and embarrassment. he maintains that he told the school he witnessed sandusky abusing a boy in 2001. sandoveningy was convicted on 45 counts of sexual abuse. i'm ainsley earhardt. now back to "on the record" with greta. has debate advice for governor mitt romney. we spoke with...
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ambassador stevens knew he was in danger. nothing was done by the obama white house. we will >> tonight, there is new informs on the ongoing coverup by the obama administration over the terror anac benghazi. the house oversight committee sent a letter to hillary clinton, demanding information on a long line of attacks on western diplomats and officials in libya in the months leading up to the september 11, 2012 attack. the committee has released images of the aftermath of the attacks. i will warn you,-these are very, very graphic. you are looking at pictures of just one of at least 13 documented security eveeps that took place in recent months, showing the aftermath of an attempted assassination on the british ambassador to libya in june, one block away from our benghazi consulate. the attacks led libyan security to request additional resources to the ambass dor. but the house has confirmed that the obama administration denied those requests and now ambassador chris stevens and three other americans, include it would go navy seals are dead. liz cheney is here this. ge
ambassador stevens knew he was in danger. nothing was done by the obama white house. we will >> tonight, there is new informs on the ongoing coverup by the obama administration over the terror anac benghazi. the house oversight committee sent a letter to hillary clinton, demanding information on a long line of attacks on western diplomats and officials in libya in the months leading up to the september 11, 2012 attack. the committee has released images of the aftermath of the attacks. i...
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they might have actually been the series of face-offs between illinois incumbent democratic senator steven douglas and his opponent republican abraham lincoln. let's take a look at a scene from the film abe lincoln in illinois which dramatizes their famous match-up. >> it is the old issue of human rights versus property rights. it is the eternal struggle between two principles. the one common right of humanity. the other the divine right of kings. it is the same spirit which says you toil and work and earn bread and i'll eat it. >> jennifer: how fantastic that would be to have language like that tomorrow night. debates, those debates dramatize there help to catapult a little known abe lincoln into national politics. coming to us tonight from houston to discuss the debates ahead of tomorrow's verbal bout between president obama and governor romney is douglas brinkley. douglas is a presidential historian. rice university professor and author of the new book "cronkite." welcome back inside "the war room." >> thanks, governor. thanks for having me. >> jennifer: you bet. so is it just me or do
they might have actually been the series of face-offs between illinois incumbent democratic senator steven douglas and his opponent republican abraham lincoln. let's take a look at a scene from the film abe lincoln in illinois which dramatizes their famous match-up. >> it is the old issue of human rights versus property rights. it is the eternal struggle between two principles. the one common right of humanity. the other the divine right of kings. it is the same spirit which says you toil...
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ambassador chris stevens and three other americans. cnn pentagon correspondent barbara starr is working this story for us. barbara, what new are you learning? >> kate, let's explain to everybody what we're talking about here, when we say that in fact the u.s. intelligence community, the u.s. military is in the very preliminary stages of assembling target lists, possible militant personnel to go after inside libya responsible for that attack. it is what they do. the cia, the military commando units, they gathering intelligence. we know they have been doing that since the attack. they put it together, with all the information they have, satellite imagery, communication intercepts, what they know about a militant organization. some of these groups in eastern libya and they develop a potential target list. this is very preliminary work we are told, assembling that list so they will be ready if president obama were to ask for it. there's no decision to do it. it's not even ready, really. it's not fully cooked. still gathering intelligence,
ambassador chris stevens and three other americans. cnn pentagon correspondent barbara starr is working this story for us. barbara, what new are you learning? >> kate, let's explain to everybody what we're talking about here, when we say that in fact the u.s. intelligence community, the u.s. military is in the very preliminary stages of assembling target lists, possible militant personnel to go after inside libya responsible for that attack. it is what they do. the cia, the military...